it was a couple weeks ago for his inauguration, the person who was supposed to give the benediction for his inauguration, louie giglio out of atlanta he had given an anti-gay sermon i think it was 10 or 15 years before, there was this controversy that surrounded that and he ended up pulling out of what is really an honor for a religious leader and instead it was a local episcopal minister from st. john's episcopal church just across lafayette park from the white house who ended up giving the benediction. it's fascinating as you see these controversies that pop up at the moments where sort of politics and religion sort of come in close proximity to each other. >> what do we expect then to hear from the president? our last couple of minutes as we wait for him to come to the podium, we'll see him when ben carson wraps up his remarks. many presidents have come to give their remarks since eisenhower forward. what do they use the platform for? what's the point? >> reporter: it depends. last year it seemed very obvious that he was courting some evangelical voters as he has done over the year a